see post #38 & post #48- i promised my Mommy i needed these 2 pair together & that that $175 shall be spent asap on those hunter wellington's- can't wait to place the order. she threatend to cancel my cable/internet service so see-ya, internet, huh? these boots cannot be 2 let slip beyond my life!!!!!!!!!!!!! weighed the matter mentally, & decided yet another pair of rainboots has won!~ ohhhhhhhhhhhh, is Mommy gonna be swearing later when i show them to her, hehe. i am kinda ornery when i choose to be~