The Pissed Off Thread

I hear ya, Fred. You push half a dozen buttons to get a person, and then you can only hope their accent isn't too heavy when you do.
If I had my say in automated response systems they would start out with, Press one for English, Press two to disconnect until you learn how.

And I hate the "tiered" tech support system. I know how to unplug my TV and plug it back in. I pressed 4 for tech support because that's who I wanted. Not customer support until they realize my problem needs "escalated" to someone who knows what they're doing.... Sheesh....

I just love it when the this is Ahmad just call me Fred. I actually get Dell's America side since I purchase my office computer though their business side which is always someone here. The home side and you get India or Pakistan mostly. DirecTv seems to always be in the states but then we have a business account with them too.

JoeV said:

I can't stand politicians who think they are economists, when in fact they are nothing more than thieving Socialist bastards. i'm talking specifically about the Messiah's Pork-U-Lus package that our kids and grandkids will be burdened with for the next 50 years just so these Pinkos can entrench themselves in bigger and more intrusive government. Even more insane are the people who think this a good thing, and will be led over the edge of the cliff like so many sheep being led to the slaughter.

Wake up America, and get your head out of your ass.

Ahhhhh...now I feel better with that off my chest.

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Hi, JoeV. I think we've messaged before. Just wanted to let you know that I signed up after seeing this post of yours.

I am a liberal who is thrilled that we have an intelligent person in charge now. I am neither a sheep, nor a bastard, nor a socialist, just someone who thinks your crass, Limbaugh-ish blowhard language is the last thing we need now.

I hope the stimulus package is reworked a bit, but we need action now. Your unregulated "let the market do what it want" ilk has had their chance. You have no viable options other than let more people get in soup lines.

Sorry you're so upset. I hope things look up for you. And I hope that those who perpetrated the incredible number of injustices over the last eight years never sleep well again.

Cheers.

ms_sue said:

Hi, JoeV. I think we've messaged before. Just wanted to let you know that I signed up after seeing this post of yours.

I am a liberal who is thrilled that we have an intelligent person in charge now. I am neither a sheep, nor a bastard, nor a socialist, just someone who thinks your crass, Limbaugh-ish blowhard language is the last thing we need now.

I hope the stimulus package is reworked a bit, but we need action now. Your unregulated "let the market do what it want" ilk has had their chance. You have no viable options other than let more people get in soup lines.

Sorry you're so upset. I hope things look up for you. And I hope that those who perpetrated the incredible number of injustices over the last eight years never sleep well again.

Cheers.

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ms_sue, I totally understand your political point of view and you are entitled to it but I would appreciate it if you would refrain from the name-calling. You could probably have an interesting discussion about issues with JoeV but once you start name calling it will degrade and just become nasty. I assume that you are an intelligent woman and can make your points and argue the issues instead of comparing JoeV to Rush Limbaugh.

PieSusan said:

ms_sue, I totally understand your political point of view and you are entitled to it but I would appreciate it if you would refrain from the name-calling. You could probably have an interesting discussion about issues with JoeV but once you start name calling it will degrade and just become nasty. I assume that you are an intelligent woman and can make your points and argue the issues instead of comparing JoeV to Rush Limbaugh.

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Thank you for your input, PieSusan. I found his post to be outrageously insulting to a large group of people. And I did not compare him to Rush. I compared his rhetoric to that of Rush's.

GreenWannabe said:

I'm peeved by automated telephone systems that there is no way to get to a human. I'm even more peeved when I reach a human only to find out that for them, english is a foreign language, and no matter what you tell them, they have canned responses and cannot handle the problem as well as the computer could - if it could. Chat sessions are almost as bad.

As far a friends finding jobs, I have two very good friends (also extremely competent) from my last company, whose former co-workers or supervisors went expressley looking for them to fill jobs for which they were uinquely qualified. In both cases, the jobs came seeking them.

It seems to me that more jobs are found these days through networking than through newspaper ads, monster, or other methods where the parties are unknown to each other. I have been able to help several workers who were laid off to find jobs through my personal contacts. YMMV.

Fred

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Excellent points! Im despise automated systems that take a map to navigate! Also regarding jobs, if they are qualified they SHOULD get those jobs.


What does everyone think about those Red Light Cameras?

ms_sue said:

Thank you for your input, PieSusan. I found his post to be outrageously insulting to a large group of people. And I did not compare him to Rush. I compared his rhetoric to that of Rush's.

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The same could be said for your rhetoric by those who disagree with you.

I am an Independent who has some experience with working with the White House advance team and have seen first hand how things are done to make this country work. I like to hear all points of view and love the market place of ideas. Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer who loves to bash and be mean-spirited. It is part of his schtick. I believe that JoeV is worried about the debt and that we are saddling our children and our children's children with an enormous burden. He perceives this to be the fault of the Democrats because they had controlled Congress. I don't agree with him. I think it is the fault of both parties.

See the difference--I do not have to denigrate JoeV's point of view to make my own.

ok on a number of previous posts

Politics... I am a Liberal I have hopes for Obama... I hated BushII lived in TX under him and saw what he was about early.... Still I am skeptical and watching closely... What I think we need more than anything is intelligent debate. The bush years were all about ask no questions... if the obama supportors do the same what's the point. There needs to be scrutiny and many opinions need to be heard,,, PLEASE hash it out debate discuss etc if we cant have diffent opinions what's the point... I always want to hear from those I disagree with that's how I learn.

So far as Telephone service WOW I am sick of talking to Dubai... and this is nothing against the individual human beings answering the phones they are just people doing a job but they have not been equipped to deal.... I need someone who understands me.. cut to the chase... yes I unplugged replugged ect they've been out 3 times this week here's what's going on... blah balh balh talking to someone reading a script who cannot converse with me, who does not even have access to the needed information is worthless. On top of this they lie... I have cought both Sprint and Earthlink in bold faced absurd lies... I no longer deal with either but Verizon has been no better.

ARGH

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on the jobs thing... depends

People like to hire by referrals... I have friends I would recommend because I know they are talented and hard working a personal rec can go far...on the other hand I have had several boss's son/daughter experiences that were pretty bad... all about entitlement non of the work ethic the original boss had but wanted all the respect... recipe for disaster. Certainly not a universal issue but pretty common.

NOOOOOOW its getting interesting!!!!

A debate!!!!!! Remember, no personal attacks. Just opinions, ideas.... yadda yadda yadda......


personally Im an independant. I think BOTH sides are full of crap.

PanchoHambre said:

ok on a number of previous posts

Politics... I am a Liberal I have hopes for Obama... I hated BushII lived in TX under him and saw what he was about early.... Still I am skeptical and watching closely... What I think we need more than anything is intelligent debate. The bush years were all about ask no questions... if the obama supportors do the same what's the point. There needs to be scrutiny and many opinions need to be heard,,, PLEASE hash it out debate discuss etc if we cant have diffent opinions what's the point... I always want to hear from those I disagree with that's how I learn.

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in part

I agree with you on all accounts. I love to hear all different opinions. I just think that we can respectfully disagree. That is the only point that I was trying to make. I am liberal on some issues and conservative on others. I am not a member of either party and never have been.

PieSusan said:

The same could be said for your rhetoric by those who disagree with you.

I am an Independent who has some experience with working with the White House advance team and have seen first hand how things are done to make this country work. I like to hear all points of view and love the market place of ideas. Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer who loves to bash and be mean-spirited. It is part of his schtick. I believe that JoeV is worried about the debt and that we are saddling our children and our children's children with an enormous burden. He perceives this to be the fault of the Democrats because they had controlled Congress. I don't agree with him. I think it is the fault of both parties.

See the difference--I do not have to denigrate JoeV's point of view to make my own.

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Well, PieSusan, you are obviously a better person than I, maybe even a bit condescending in a lecturing kind of way?

I have no problem with reasonable discourse. But I didn't see it here. I just sort of take umbrage at inflammatory language that includes "socialist," "pinko," and the ever-delightful "Messiah."

And I spoke my mind in the way that I saw fit with regard to this particular post. I really don't think that I was all that harsh. My words may not have appealed to you, but frankly, I can't help that.

P.S. The statement that the Dems controlled Congress is misleading. They Repubs had a majority during some of the GWB years.

ms_sue said:

Well, PieSusan, you are obviously a better person than I, maybe even a bit condescending in a lecturing kind of way?

I have no problem with reasonable discourse. But I didn't see it here. I just sort of take umbrage at inflammatory language that includes "socialist," "pinko," and the ever-delightful "Messiah."

And I spoke my mind in the way that I saw fit with regard to this particular post. I really don't think that I was all that harsh. My words may not have appealed to you, but frankly, I can't help that.

P.S. The statement that the Dems controlled Congress is misleading. They Repubs had a majority during some of the GWB years.

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Well now..... See..... this is a good thing! You saw something that pissed you off and you said something about it. Nothing wrong with that. I encourage it even. BUUUUUT.... this is getting a tad personal:

maybe even a bit condescending in a lecturing kind of way?

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Water off a ducks back folks. Remember dont get personal. Just opinions, ideas and facts and why you think youre correct.

In my opinion, a politician is a politician whether he is Dem, Rep, or Ind. They all lie to get where they want. I don't trust any of them. I pay my taxes, I pay my bills, I love my country. That is all I can do. I will support whoever is in office - but I do not have to agree with them. Am I scared? Hell yeah! Am I optimistic, hardly! Don't take this the wrong way, but Jesus Christ himself could be running this country and I would still be scared.

heb1976 said:

In my opinion, a politician is a politician whether he is Dem, Rep, or Ind. They all lie to get where they want. I don't trust any of them. I pay my taxes, I pay my bills, I love my country. That is all I can do. I will support whoever is in office - but I do not have to agree with them. Am I scared? Hell yeah! Am I optimistic, hardly! Don't take this the wrong way, but Jesus Christ himself could be running this country and I would still be scared.

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Yup! I feel the same way. But if Jesus was in charge now THAT would be something! No meat on Fridays

The Giant Mojito said:

No meat on Fridays

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Good one!!

heb1976 said:

Good one!!

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Why thank you!


OK... no one has an opinion of Red Light Cameras?

"maybe even a bit condescending in a lecturing kind of way?"

Personal? Perhaps. But it was very true.

My neighborhood is flooded with red light cameras!!! I'm not sure how I feel about them... as I see so many people running the lights, it is absolutely dangerous what people will do to save a few seconds/minutes. But at the same time, I'm not sure that the cameras are the answer. Seems more like a revenue generating tactic to me.

I really don't get those. But I guess when you don't have enough officers to patrol, big brother has to step in.

Why don't they put cameras or speed trackers around the school zones. I am so sick of people speeding through them.

heb1976 said:

I really don't get those. But I guess when you don't have enough officers to patrol, big brother has to step in.

Why don't they put cameras or speed trackers around the school zones. I am so sick of people speeding through them.

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Well for many reasons those things are against many State constitutions. There must be a officer that not only takes the reading but also personally give you the ticket.

I'm all for red light cameras! An amber light is not supposed to be interpreted as 'hurry up regardless that you are still half a block away from the intersection'. If you are not at the light when it turns amber you really are supposed to stop!

I wish they could rig the driver seat so that cell phones won't work in that small space. It would force drivers to get hands free devices that could permit the phone to be outside the box. If you hold it in that zone, it won't work. Barring that, perhaps the car won't work unless both hands are on the wheel....? Take one off for more than 15 seconds and horrifying alarms at unbearable decibles will peal unmercifully.

What do you think about motorcycle drivers who weave in and out of slow moving or stopped traffiic? Personally, I'm not sure how I feel about it. Sure, I'd like to open my car door when I see one of them getting passed me...but if you've got a small enough vehicle to get around the traffic without actually going off the road (like onto the shoulder) then why shouldn't you?

I do not see a problem with that red light cams (now that I found out what you mean ;o) )
If people drive too fast or cross red lights, it's their own fault and they shouldn't complain about that.
If they have driven like they should nothing would have happened.

using the cell phone without a - you call it hand free device? - hand free device is forbidden by law in Germany.
It costs some money and earns you some points in Flensburg (when you have a certain amount (17?19?) they confiscate your driving license)..

the same with that motorcycle thing.. it's forbidden but that doesn't stop people doing that.. we had it once in a jam at the autobahn that a motorcycler came from behind and the space was real narrow.. and if I say narrow, I mean narrow..
he had problems getting throught the cars, was about to touch the mirrors and when one car just behind us narrowed the space to make him stop in line he just kicked the car!!

Last night, I went to bed. In trying to get comfortable, I realized that my stomach was FULL. I didn't think I ate that much for dinner...

Well, after 2 hours of tossing and turning, if anything, my stomach was even MORE full that when I went to bed. Great........

A couple hours later, I hit a critical level and had to make a mad dash for the bathroom. Needless to say, I didn't make it. Now I've got a mess to clean up.

I went back to bed, still tossing and turning, but not quite as bloated as before. Around 0500, here comes Round #2. This time I was prepared.

I finally managed to get about an hour of sleep. I am NOT looking forward to working today.

VeraBlue said:

I'm all for red light cameras! An amber light is not supposed to be interpreted as 'hurry up regardless that you are still half a block away from the intersection'. If you are not at the light when it turns amber you really are supposed to stop!

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I agree amber means stop, not gun it. And I was for red light cameras until politics and money got in the way.
Cities can increase revenue by adding the red light cameras. Then, as with all things computerized the company starts tweaking it. What if we make the yellow light change quicker, They get more tickets. So municipalities have been messing with things to screw over motorists to make more cash. They took what could have been a good thing and tainted it with their greed, now I don't trust them. No easy answer for sure.

In Germany there is a law *again* how long the amber light phase is.. depending on the speed limit...

I have a bit of a problem with camera type ticket writers on a lot of grounds. First it is really unconstitutional in that you have the right to examine your accuser which it tough to do with a machine or camera in this case. Secondly supposed you lone your car to a son, daughter or relative and they get nailed, you get the ticket as they usually simply take a shot of the back of the car to get the license plate number. Again that is also a bit of a problem. Now if these things could be address I might trust it a bit more but for now I don't want to see a 1984 solution to our problems.

Reminds of something I read once, probably a joke or urban legend. It goes something like this:
Guy runs a red light, and the camera gets a shot of him. The police send him a ticket plus the photo of him running the red light. The guy sends back a picture of money instead of actual money. The police send back a picture of handcuffs, LOL.

A lot of the cameras around here are set back and aimed so they get both the front and back of the car.. the front as it comes thru the light and the back so they can get the license plate. This way they have a picture of the person driving the car.
Still not sure how it works when someone else is driving your car, but I think the idea is to ensure that you don't get the ticket if it wasn't you.

The Giant Mojito said:

Yup! I feel the same way. But if Jesus was in charge now THAT would be something! No meat on Fridays

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If Jesus was around today he'd be ridiculed as a long haired, Roman sandal wearing, peace and love preaching, dirty hippie... JMHO...

RobsanX said:

If Jesus was around today he'd be ridiculed as a long haired, Roman sandal wearing, peace and love preaching, dirty hippie... JMHO...

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And probably be beaten up buy a bunch of red necks.

Sail boaters.

BMW drivers.

Liberals.

That's about all the pizz me off.