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Old 03-10-2013, 05:46 PM
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Cooksie -

not that I disagree with your sentiment, but being 'the cook' in the midst and throes of DW's similar and such issue(s)

there's (at least) two major areas where health professionals are having knock-'em-down-drag-'em-out debates.

one is the role of salt in blood pressure issues.
not all bp issues are related to salt.
not all bp issues can be "cured" by a single "solution" of salt abstinence / diet / weight loss / etc and et al

the other is the cholesterol issue.
stuff like "eggs'll kill you" is really suspect at this point - more generalized, physical ingestion of cholesterol fat itself is quite possible not a factor in serum levels.

(((and why do I guess there's a bunch more "issues" could be added here . . . )))

my take? I don't believe any of them. we do, we test / measure, we adjust.
don't tell anybody, but we're doing about 180 degrees to the Family Doctor's advice and the number keep getting better. . . .
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Who here likes gourmet salt?

For me, it might be, so that's what I'm trying. Sorry to make a mess here.
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:27 PM
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For me, it might be, so that's what I'm trying. Sorry to make a mess here.
I don't think you made a mess at all. I think your thread encouraged conversation, and that's good .

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Cooksie -

not that I disagree with your sentiment, but being 'the cook' in the midst and throes of DW's similar and such issue(s)

there's (at least) two major areas where health professionals are having knock-'em-down-drag-'em-out debates.

one is the role of salt in blood pressure issues.
not all bp issues are related to salt.
not all bp issues can be "cured" by a single "solution" of salt abstinence / diet / weight loss / etc and et al

the other is the cholesterol issue.
stuff like "eggs'll kill you" is really suspect at this point - more generalized, physical ingestion of cholesterol fat itself is quite possible not a factor in serum levels.

(((and why do I guess there's a bunch more "issues" could be added here . . . )))

my take? I don't believe any of them. we do, we test / measure, we adjust.
don't tell anybody, but we're doing about 180 degrees to the Family Doctor's advice and the number keep getting better. . . .
I agree that all bp issues are not just brought on by salt intake. I think bp issues for some people can be caused by too much salt, not enough exercise, being overweight, stress, etc. Probably some other things too. Some people just inherited it too (not sure if inherited is the right word ).

I'm lucky that I can control mine with just diet and moderate exercise. If my bp ooches into the 130's/80's, I just watch my sodium for a couple of days, and it comes back down. Sometimes I get all stressed out, and that causes it to rise too. It's different for everyone.

I don't really agree on the cholesterol thing. I know your body produces cholesterol, but I believe ingestion of cholesterol is a factor in serum levels.

Tell us some of your tricks that are making your numbers continue to get better.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:14 PM
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>>not sure if inherited is the right word
"genetic" may be better - but same idea.

the medical profession / research is very good. but they don't know everything at this point. and, as you pointed out, not every individual has identical causes nor does every individual react to drugs / treatment / routines / etc etc in the same fashion.

<genetics> we're retired; we eat the same stuff out of the same pot. we don't eat out all that often, so that's not a difference. when my cholesterol test come back they have to put it under a microscope to find the numbers. DW is borderline high. same diet. we do omelets, "on toast", souffles, Benedict, over easy/hard, scrambled, you name it. so when she showed up borderline high we cut out the eggs. three months later, didn't make any difference. go figger.

what has made a marked difference? oats - yeah, like they say on teevee.....
Cheerios about 2x /week, or hot oatmeal.
ground oatmeal vs. bread crumbs.....
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: Who here likes gourmet salt?

Interesting thread. I do most of the cooking, and use very little salt. When I do use salt, it's sea salt because I like the flavor. I try to use very little process foods in my cooking, but as we all know, it's unavoidable. I've heard that table salt with iodine is good for the thyroid, and can have a negative effect when removed from the diet. I dunno...

My family has a history of hypertension, and as expected, I'm on 10mg of Lisinopril without a diuretic. Lab results reviewed at my Dr. visit a couple weeks ago, showed low sodium...go figure.
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Default Re: Who here likes gourmet salt?

What do you do, then, if you have high blood pressure but a lack of sodium ?
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Default Re: Who here likes gourmet salt?

I also cook almost everything from scratch - fresh/frozen veggies, very very few canned anything.

yesterday was chili - so's I'm looking at dark red kidney beans in the can....
store brand, "no salt added" - label sez: Sodium=zero
Bush's - 485 mg per serving
stuff can vary like crazy....
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Have you talked to your dr. Chocolate Moose? My DH has high blood pressure but his sodium levels are fine. He was diagnosed quite a few years ago and the dr. told him that his HBP was caused by stress. He prescribed a combination of medications and now, his BP is better than mine most of the time
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What do you do, then, if you have high blood pressure but a lack of sodium ?
I think it is difficult for an American to suffer from lack of sodium. I try to avoid salt as much as possible, but you have to actively search for salt free packaged goods and nearly all restaurant food is salted.

Even the olive in my nightly martini is in brine.
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I think it is difficult for an American to suffer from lack of sodium.
Funny, but, true.
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Default Re: Who here likes gourmet salt?

My dr said, last week, that my blood pressure has been too low for too long, and that he wants me to get more sodium. I come from a family of high bloood pressure so we never had salt in the house and I continued that as an adult.
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Default Re: Who here likes gourmet salt?

"what has made a marked difference? oats - yeah, like they say on teevee.....
Cheerios about 2x /week, or hot oatmeal.
ground oatmeal vs. bread crumbs....."

Dang....all things I don't like
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:18 PM
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>>all things I don't like

heehee. the ground oatmeal is one you'll likely never notice.
I toss Ye Olde Standard Quaker Oats into the blender and zap 'em into a fine(r) meal.

now..... works for anything needed "flour" as a breading / coating - example: 50-50 mix with cornmeal for (gasp:gasp deep fried) butterfly shrimp

works well for "meat filler" - ala meatloaf / hamburger.
which is actually a curious funny - I use one whole egg (gasp: the yolk too!) per one pound of 85/15 ground beef. I use the oatmeal "flour" to soak up any 'excess' moisture.

same theory for salmon patties - omegas on oatmeal steroids - how can you miss?

the evil egg yolk - swamp-dried with oatmeal, bad "C" levels go down down down . . .
go figger.

this _will NOT_ work for every human on the face of the planet. our neighbor is on anti-c drugs because nothing nothing nothing worked for him including an increased use of oats / whole grains. how well did he "follow the diet?" - no clue.

his insurance forced him to switch from Brand Lipitor to a "generic" and his levels went through the roof.

some stuff works for some people
other stuff works for other people
and no, they don't know why.
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I just use Kosher salt or sea salt for most everything. Never tried any of the real fancy stuff.


i've got regular, no-salt, Salt Sense and sea salt.

Still have yet to use the sea salt though.
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Here is an article about salt that I came across and I thought some of you might find it interesting.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...ticle10812924/
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that's very interesting, Bells. thanks for posting!
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Default Re: Who here likes gourmet salt?

Every winter when it gets cold enough to cold smoke, I make it a point to smoke a couple cups of kosher salt, black pepper, and red pepper. It can add a nice dimension to dishes without using that God awful monstrosity called liquid smoke.
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:37 PM
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I've been using liquid smoke for years.

The problem is, that if you use too much of it, your meats can taste like medicine!!

But it is said to have principally the same flavor in meat that you'd get if you cooked or smoked the meat out on the BBQ grill.

But now, I have the kettle Stovetop Smoker, which I still have yet to try. I'll use it sometime in late spring or early summer when the weather is warm enough, because the kitchen window has to be opened and a fan on to vent any smoke that might be produced to the outside.

Right now, it is still a bit too cold.
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Default Re: Who here likes gourmet salt?

Sherman, I too used to use liquid smoke, and should have used a smiley to show that I was being sarcastic. It has it's place, but between having smoked salt, black pepper, red pepper, and of course good paprika, I don't find I have a need for it anymore.
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>>I don't find I have a need for it anymore.

likely because you've incorporated it into the smoked salt & pepper.
Liquid Smoke - and a bunch of alternatives - are (well, at least the ones not totally artificial / chem lab products) - the condensed vapors of (gasp!) smoke produced by combustion conditions similar to grilling / smoking.

run grill smoke past a pile of salt & pepper(s), vapors condense on the (cold) salt, badda-bing-badda-boom - same stuff only coating the salt/peppers vs. collected as a liquid.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:39 AM
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I also have smoked ground black pepper.
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